Showing posts with label desteni. Show all posts
Showing posts with label desteni. Show all posts

Saturday, 3 December 2011

Equal Money System, political agenda of a cult

Ivan Rauscher

 [note: Since July 2013, Desteni's Equal Money System has been superseded by Living Income Guaranteed.]


Desteni video descriptions state ‘The Equal Money system will be a first step in the political agenda of the Equal Life Party worldwide once we start participating in democratic elections.’

There is no Equal Life Party. Apparently to get the ‘equal money system’ (EMS) started, unpaid volunteers make promotional webpages, but avoid publicising EMS any further afield. Except for Facebook and YouTube, they refuse to spread their message via the mainstream or alternative media, and they do not hold public meetings. 


Donations are solicited on the Desteni website to help them ‘get into politics and government
, yet they denounce charity as evil. They are opposed to capitalism but run a Multi-Level-Marketing scheme. They call EMS radical freedom but say freedom of expression leads to abuse. EMS is envisaged as coming into being after the Basic Income Grant (BIG) campaign has been proven successful world-wide, yet Desteni are not involved in the BIG campaign. They say they want to get into government by democratic means because they don't trust humanity.


Blogs and videos using the EMS slogan reiterate the well-known idea that inequality, crime, poverty and starvation are often related to the divide between rich and poor. They depict an imaginary society where equality is re-defined by Desteni. The global administration of the EMS is said to be able to provide a life-long guaranteed income for each citizen. It is supposed to micro-chip and monitor humans against abuse, negate all forms of trade and the need for individuals to have to work for more than four years.  


It is said
EMS will be the result of at least 50% of citizens voting for ‘Equal Life Party in global democratic elections that will miraculously take place after the collapse of capitalism. How supporters of EMS, called the Destonians know this is not explained, but it is in keeping with a view they have of themselves as possessing all-knowing power and knowledge, as displayed on their Equalitee t-shirts where they name themselves after super-hero comic book characters, the Guardians of the Universe.

To the Destonians, the rest of the population are all poor unfortunate brainwashed victims of consumer capitalism and need to be told what is ‘best for all’. They depict non-Destonians as afraid of equality and ‘protecting the current system of abuse’. The Destonians have no conception of political or social ideas beyond the EMS but want to dictate how the whole world should be policed as one all-encompassing authoritarian system. As bizarre as it seems, they describe global implementation of their EMS as not only the inevitable future of the world, but run by the people for the people in strict accordance with information published by the Desteni group of South Africa.


No independent source has ever cited
EMS as a worthwhile political idea. The reputation it has is that it is a scam. Almost everyone who's heard of it can see it's a scam, except for some reason the Destonians. But that's the way of cults. Desteni is widely regarded as a potentially destructive cult with anti-democratic policies, a ridiculous, nonsensical philosophy and a very amateur mode of presentation.

Their Faceworldfaceoff campaign, said to ‘actually have an Effect in the World that will have an Economic Effect on the Corpus of the Economic Structure of the World
and with the purpose of convincing at least 100 million people to shave their heads ‘for equality’ has fizzled out. And despite having released several 1000s of videos and reams of written material since 2007, Desteni still has no more than around 100 active participants world-wide. 

The group is described as exploring principles of equality and oneness but is blatantly sectarian. EMS is against free choice, privacy, freedom of speech and information, and opposed to trade and commerce. EMS would be a one-party rule, which would mean no democracy. It is as though the Destonians are nationalists defending the purity of the virtual totalitarian nation-state of Destonia. 

They say critics of
EMS have not ‘done the research’, even when it is clear they have researched EMS and Desteni, and even if they state they do not support capitalism. The Destonians claim if someone disagrees with EMS then it is because EMS is a ‘threat to the current system’. There is no evidence of EMS having threatened anyone's financial or personal security, or any corporate consumer interests whatsoever. 


Despite the fact that equality as a principle is meant to be applied without pre-conditions as a basic democratic human right, the Destonians say the only way anyone can prove themselves worthy of equality is by utilising ‘the tools’ of Desteni-branded media. Yet the principle of equality is an established part of developing ongoing social, legal and political situations and everyone is supposed to be worthy of it regardless. That is the whole idea of equality. 


But the Destonians regard all human beings as evil and possessed by ‘mind demons’.
In discussing what would be the outcome if you do not support EMS, they suggest that to avoid having to go through the hassle of an intervention by psychology professionals to have you rehabilitated for not co-operating with EMS in the future, then for your own sake you should investigate EMS now. When the Destonians recommend people ‘investigate EMS’ what they mean is: read the material, watch the videos and join Desteni.

The actual premise for EMS in the first place is Bernard Poolman's stories about how he encountered demons, famous dead people and other entities in dimensions of ‘mind consciousness systems’ designed by a race of beings called the Annunaki that also happened to have designed human beings. With the help of Poolman's chosen Portal, heaven was purified, so it is now time to bring the purified heaven to earth with EMS and make everyone a millionaire.

The stated aim of all Desteni-oriented activities is to dedicate one's life to deleting ‘the mind’ through ‘self-forgiveness’. That is what they say will bring about world equality and the ‘heaven on earth’ of EMS. The implementation of the political agenda of the Desteni group ‘as it currently exist’ involves selling holidays and the online promotion and sale of products inspired by Bernard Poolman’s demented fantasies.

Wednesday, 17 August 2011

Desteni's copyright violation of Apple logo

As was pointed out a few months ago, the design of the original Desteni I Process logo (also used generally as a Desteni logo) was a copyright violation. 

original Desteni I Process MLM logo
It was a copy of the Apple AppStore logo.

Apple AppStore logo
Apple Inc were eventually informed of this. It appears Apple took action and Desteni responded by changing their logo on the desteniiprocess.com and desteni.co.za websites. Desteni members will also have to change the logos on their avatars on Facebook and elsewhere.

D I Process: new logo
This is another indication that since the termination of their main YouTube channels, and as Desteni continue to publicise their 'equal money system' cult scam, they will continue to encounter more opposition and more setbacks.

Wednesday, 10 August 2011

Desteni YouTube accounts terminated


DesteniProductions, BernardPoolman, DesteniMoney, and DesteniProdDemons YouTube accounts were terminated, August 9, 2011.

Over 3000 Desteni videos have been erased from YouTube.


They suggest members all send the same email to YouTube:

They have begun uploading old Sunette Spies videos to a Vimeo account. Vimeo community guidelines are stricter than YouTube and include the following:

‘You may NOT upload videos that:
Promote fraudulent schemes, multi level marketing (MLM) schemes, get rich quick schemes, online gaming and gambling, cash gifting, work from home businesses, or any other dubious money-making ventures.’

Considering the only purpose of all Desteni videos is to promote and recruit for their Desteni I Process Multi-Level Marketing Scheme, the Desteni Vimeo channel is practically in violation of Vimeo community guidelines.


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Tuesday, 24 May 2011

Dear Desteni Movement...

Felida The Geek

I have watched you try to scam people for a while now. I have also watched as you filed false DMCA notices and flagged channels down that exposed you for what you are: A cult like organization that is trying to scam money out of people via a pyramid scheme. I have watched as good channels were permanently shut down for the simple reason of exposing you. And I have decided that I won't watch any longer.

As you may have noticed, a lot of the counternotices to your false DMCAs recently filed had MY name on them. That's right, MY name, which is perfectly legal, as I have accepted a co-ownership of the videos you had falsely removed. Falsely removed, because they were covered by the fair use provision. As a bit of a reminder, here is what copyright law has to say about fair use:
17 U.S.C. § 107
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. § 106 and 17 U.S.C. § 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:
the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
the nature of the copyrighted work;
the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
You will notice that none of the videos you filed a DMCA claim against were of any commercial interest. The sole purpose of these videos was to critizise and comment on your money making scheme that you so blatantly hide behind your supposed social and environmental program.

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Friday, 20 May 2011

Wednesday, 27 April 2011

Ex Desteni Members

XfinksX (from somewhere outside of the dimensions)

The struggle to oppose Desteni and their hypocrisy continues. As Desteni continues utilizing tactics of deception and trickery in an effort to expand their membership count, more and more people become aware of the true meaning of Desteni. The Anti Desteni Movement continues to grow. The abusive narcissist Bernard Poolman continues his delusional ranting and raving. This little man wishes to become rich and powerful while hiding under a guise of liberator and riding on the backs of those who support him. This Mouth of the Dimensions presents himself as a savior without calling himself as such. Whenever he is criticized, he vilifies and demonizes those who question him. He makes sweeping and untrue generalization of those outside of Desteni. And furthermore, he treats those who were once associated with Desteni with utter contempt and disregard.

In fact this is what I wish to address this evening. It has come to my attention that there exists people who were once considered members of Desteni. However, these individuals no longer wish to be associated with this vile organization which preys upon those who are seeking greater meaning in their lives. If you go to Desteni's website you will find a list of names under their community. Some of these people have removed their involvement with Desteni. However, Desteni continues to show these people as supporters when in fact the opposite is true. So my question to Desteni is this: Why do you continue showing these people as supporters? Do you wish to inflate your numbers for the sake of appearance? Are you hoping these people will return even after they uncover your abusive inner core? Or is it that you wish to antagonize and continue to intimidate these people on some level? These Ex Desteni Members are the Desteni Experts that Poolman was referring to! These people know you for what you are and have no wish to return. Therefore remove these people from your list of supporters. How can you in all honesty claim these people when it is simply untrue! Perhaps after you have removed their names you can practice some self forgiveness and breathing rituals to clear your minds of doubt and alter your memories. Perhaps you can make yourselves believe that these individuals were never members at all. 

Friday, 22 April 2011

Desteni Erotic Series: Bernard Poolman, of the cult of Desteni, asking a girl undecent things.

SimulacronX

Just putting in my two cents concerning two Desteni videos, a bit dumbfounded.
NEWS: The videos mentioned here have been removed by Desteni. Good thing I document, download and archive everything.
"Shaved Bald Girl Faces Hard Questions: Sex, Drugs, Masturbation" - /watch?v=nc1CZFbmxgg and "Shaved Bald Girl Faces Hard Questions : Does She Like To Be Eaten? Her Toes Sucked?" - /watch?v=x_fsqHT_Lp4

Wednesday, 13 April 2011

'Sean from Desteni' or 'Care who you trust'

Destenigossip

The internet is a dangerous place. Most people don’t realise it, but once something is online, it is impossible to be removed. Someone always remembers, someone has downloaded your video, someone has a screencap.

Let’s talk about Sean from Desteni for a bit. Sean is very trusting. He created a thread on the Desteni forum about experiences in his past that are not only rather private, they are actually quite disturbing. Sean voiced doubts about the thread and asked it to be removed, which of course didn’t happen. Sean has given up all power about what he posted one week prior. It’s not his secret anymore, it belongs to Desteni, and above all, it belongs to me too: A random stranger who enjoys gossiping about ‘Destonians’ with a devilish delight in spreading what was not supposed to be spread.

Sean, do you really think this was a wise idea?

I have heard the excuse before, “A lot of shit flies on the forum, it is not their fault.”

Not their fault?

Desteni moderators decide what is left up on the forum and what is not. Members are encouraged to expose their most private thoughts and their darkest secrets. I have read about Mattis tendency for date-rape, Lindsays first time having sex, Freds addiction to child pornography, people slapping children, hurting themselves and others, criminal acts, fears and now apparently sexual abuse.

Read more at Destenigossip

Monday, 11 April 2011

The Equality and Oneness of Desteni

Notodesteni01

An examination of Desteni's Equality and Oneness.

From an outside perspective, Desteni appears unequal. A "Common Sense" man speaks on behalf of something outside of existence. This man has been given infallibility. When you question or criticize him you are questioning or criticizing the dimensions. This fallible man always has the best excuse. His mysterious nonsensical ways are always justified via this route. He is always in the right despite evidence to the contrary. In this way, this leader appears as a despot. He can only justify his position by deriding or condemning others. He is the worst form of abuser as he is either incognizant of the abuse or he is indifferent to it. The former makes him insane while the latter makes him a sociopath. His position of authority rests upon the belief that everything he says and does comes from the dimensions.



However, are those within Desteni coming closer to oneness and equality? The answer is Yes. All within Desteni are becoming equal and one with the leader. They give up their own power and sense of self. And herein lies the confusion to outside observers. Desteni never defines Equality and Oneness. Desteni will never tell the potential recruit that will become equal and one to the leader via giving up their identity, sense of self, and potential. They strive for self-expression, but all such expression is an illusion. All forms of self-expression will eventually become equal with the leader in thought and in deed. All doubt and concern is wiped away through self-forgiveness and self-response-ability under the banner of what is "Best for All." But since the sense of self is being eradicated, "Best for All" becomes "What is Best for the One or the Leader."

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Saturday, 26 March 2011

The Desteni delusion - Imagine this

By SimulacronX on 28 Jul 2010

My critical perception of some main traits and oddities in the thought-reform cult Desteni. First ever "video". I was a bit angry at them then, but nonetheless, at least I was being self-honest. Ha. Haha.