Showing posts with label desteni universe. Show all posts
Showing posts with label desteni universe. Show all posts

Wednesday, 31 August 2011

Hitler channeling cult censored?

Ivan Rauscher

All chapters of Bernard Poolman’s so-called ‘book’, ‘I Am Hitler’ have been removed from public access at desteni.co.za, including Poolman’s article, ‘Hitler and Forgiveness’. (However, it is still archived here.)

Whether or not this is in response to warnings from the desteni.co.za web host, Hetzner.co.za, and just a temporary act of self-censorship on the part of Poolman, is at present unknown and there is no comment made at the site.

Poolman's ‘I Am Hitler’ was a central part of the Desteni material at desteni.co.za and the original desteni-universe website, as were videos of Sunette Spies pretending to be Hitler speaking from ‘beyond the grave’ on the now defunct YouTube channel, Desteniproductions

Terminations of Desteniproductions and Bernard Poolman's YouTube channels were due to their promotion of Multi-Level Marketing, regarded by YouTube as ‘commercially deceptive content’, but also because of complaints against the Desteni Hitler material. 

To say that Adolf Hitler is an example of ‘self-forgiveness’ verges on support for Nazism. If a member of ‘desteni’ made such a statement in a place of work where, as in the UK, there are laws in support of Equal Opportunities, they would lose their job.

Poolman's romanticisation of himself as the redeemer of the Nazi leader is a crude attempt to rehabilitate the historical figure of Adolf Hitler in the minds of impressionable people. Poolman's fan club have claimed that ‘what Hitler did for the German people was full employment and no crime’, when full employment and ‘no crime’ were brought about in Germany by the Nazis waging all-out war against other nations and legalising the terrorising, torturing and killing of Jews and other minorities. 

But in Poolman's ‘desteni’, Hitler's economic policies are meant to show how an ‘equal money system’ might work, and ‘equality’ involves seeing Hitler as a model of ‘self-forgiveness’. It means denouncing friends and family as ‘demonic’ and damning outsiders as psychopaths who are ‘unworthy of life’ -- as if such notions could be of any use to anyone. 

They all revolve around the ridiculous idea that dead movie and rock stars, occultists, dictators, reptilians, mythical beings and various inanimate objects have told Mr. Poolman -- via some waitress he picked up in a café -- that they have ‘forgiven’ themselves in the afterlife or in ‘the dimensions’ -- as if that were an unquestionable revelation of ‘equality’. 

Mr. Poolman tries to hijack liberal concepts of equality to try to make his financial scams, bigotry and tawdry fantasies about famous historical or fictional characters seem relevant and appealing. But he is unconvincing.

‘Equality’, the ‘equal money system’, the so-called ‘lifestyle concept’ of the Desteni I Process MLM scam and requests for donations at desteni.co.za are all so many tacky marketing devices to raise funds to maintain the ‘lifestyle’ of the people who live on, and sell holidays at the Desteni farm in South Africa.

Just as Poolman has never met Hitler or anyone else in ‘the afterlife’, heaven or in ‘demon dimensions’, he, Sunette Spies and all their buddies and deluded, obedient sycophants have nothing whatever to do with equality.

‘Desteni’ is a fraudulent organisation. It only exists to promote Bernard Poolman's xenophobic, misanthropic world view. Its members misrepresent, abuse and pervert principles of equality in support of their own enslavement under his totalitarian fantasy of an ‘Equal Life Party’. In spite of their empty claims that they are a ‘threat to the system’, they are a threat only to themselves and the naïve, idealistic New Ager conspiracy theorists they try to prey on, groom and recruit. 

Thursday, 16 June 2011

Anti-Human Desteni Hate Machine

0rdoTempliAurora 
(with thanks to Istenenergia, XfinksX and antidestenimovement)

Months after certain videos made by critics of Desteni have been released, the Desteni group have started to comment on them. In their typical group-think, Borg-like manner, Desteni members mostly ‘respond’ to selected videos of their critics all at the same time via so-called ‘anti hate’ channels. Each chooses the same videos to ‘respond’ to and gives their own videos the same titles. It happens automatically, like a machine. 

However, these ‘anti hate’ videos are not ‘responses’ in the accepted YouTube sense because they are not linked as responses, and those critics whose videos are reviewed are already blocked, so none of the critics can respond back directly. 

Their critics' comments are dismissed, ignored or misrepresented, and the usual Desteni dogma is trotted out by rote, as we have heard many times before.

Cathy Krafft follows up her original antihate video on an 0rdo Templi Aurora video, Desteni Preacher of Hate, Bernard Poolman -part 1 with another on her own channel called What I have to say about the Beast of Desteni Universe - EXPOSED.

She assumes that one person made Desteni Preacher of Hate, Bernard Poolman - part 1 and four minutes into her video, Cathy Krafft recommends that he or she should commit suicide. Then she retracts her statement. 

‘Bernard Poolman is the most unselfish individual walking the face of this earth’, says Cathy. She adds several comments below her video containing quotes from the Beast of Desteni Universe himself, as if he were an authority on something or other. 

We received an email from YouTube stating that YouTube received a privacy complaint from an individual regarding content of the second part of Desteni Preacher of Hate, Bernard Poolman and were given 48 hours to remove the video, which we have not done.

The information reported as violating privacy at 0_36-0_40 was highlighted as a clip by the antidestenimovement channel.

The mere mention of Cameron Cope’s name is supposedly ‘privacy violation’. Nothing else. Cameron Cope runs a YouTube channel under the name, cameronvcope. He has publicly made his name known for some years and has his own blog and profile page on the Desteni website. He has publicly discussed his business, Desteni Education, at the Cult Education Forum with the user name, Cameron Cope.

Cameron Cope, Cathy Krafft and their pals would prefer it if Desteni critics would just disappear off the face of the earth. They really hate it when we point out that their leader is a con-man. 

It is a simple fact that the majority of Bernard Poolman's speeches are attacks on various kinds of people, most often without any justification other than the idea that money is not ‘equal’ and people generally are not members of Desteni. He never makes any coherent criticisms, he just wallows in hostility. He is very fond of calling all kinds of people and things evil. He's always making a big deal of what he calls ‘equality’ but says to his followers, ‘You are not equal to me, there is no such thing’ (see: Equality on this World).

He appears to have an extreme dislike of other people's capacity to think for and express themselves. Poolman's basic position is that he regards human beings as ‘trapped by consciousness’ and ‘evil’ by ‘design’. He regards individuality as evil. As he says in Cold blooded nature of individualism, 'individuality deserves not to exist and must be rooted out forevermore'. 

To Bernard Poolman, other human beings are demonic entities. All people’s thoughts, feelings or emotions, and even consciousness itself must be removed altogether, as must ‘the mind’. He actively encourages his followers to believe that everyone else is evil and hateful and only he and his Desteni organisation can save them. He describes ‘the human’ as 'in essence really something that cannot be trusted and must be eradicated at all costs’.  

In his own response to the Desteni Preacher of Hate videos, released 11 Nov 2010, months before the Desteni ‘anti hate’ campaign, whilst feigning, as usual, Christian forgiveness, Poolman admitted that he does ‘do hate speech’ because he speaks ‘what people hate to hear’ and of course his opponents are ‘evil incarnate’ (see: Preaching Hate Speech).

Poolman's network of consumerist drones loyal to the Desteni brand serves as a propaganda machine to convey his lies, delusions and hatred, and to instil that hatred in others. They're a gaggle of yes-people all repeating the same information. They communicate in catch phrases and jeer each other on with exclamations of ‘cool!’. When people have to say ‘cool’ so often, you know there’s nothing ‘cool’ whatsoever going on.

In supporting Poolman and echoing his views, the Desteni group enter a twilight world of inter-passive solipsism directed at others in the form of preaching what's ‘best for all’. Apparently, to bring about world equality, everyone must destroy themselves.

Desteni are ‘anti’ everything. Preoccupied with their own neuroses, they demonise others, their former friends and family, and everything that is not Desteni. It's all due to Poolman's influence, his cynical ploy to cash in on people's fears of widespread economic instability, hopes for a more just world and need to connect with others. They want to believe that they will vote for a Desteni monetary system and it will save them from ‘evil’. They take it on faith that conforming to Desteni is the inevitable ‘future of the world’, when it's just an internet scam designed to support Poolman's sordid little business. 

Saturday, 30 April 2011

Comments by ex-Desteni member

I'm going to make a public claim here, in the hope of opening up more people's eyes to the dishonesties, disrespect and lies of the Desteni cult. What I'm going to relate here has actually happened to me quite recently. I'm an ex-supporter of Desteni and their proposed equal money system, and I was also a member on their forum. However; several months ago I woke up and realized what they are actually all about. And since then I want nothing to do with Desteni whatsoever.

So back then I wrote an email to them asking them to remove my name from their website. Of course I didn't want may name to be up there when I no longer supported them. They completely ignored my email-communication and request and they never responded to me and they just left my name up on the website. So I just gave up.

Since then I haven't bothered with Desteni at all, but a couple of days ago I happened upon their website, and found that my name was still up there showing me as a supporter of Desteni. I found that I was still able to login to the forum, so I wrote a post asking them to remove my name because I stand against everything that is Desteni. Guess what happened? After just a few minutes my post got deleted and they blocked me from the forum instantly.

Then I wrote another email to them repeating my request again, but I didn't get an answer this time either, and my name is still up on their website. This is the way they operate. And they are the ones talking about honesty and non-abuse ... well, what do you call this behavior of theirs? They are spreading lies and are using ways that are really hurtful and disrespectful.

Please, go and have a look at their website "Desteni Universe" and look under the headline "Community", there you will see a list of names of "people", and my name is still up there (MarieSedig), even though I've asked them several times to remove my name and told them that I certainly do not support them any longer. This is my honest testimony, and this is precisely what happened to me, and I'm not making this up. Thank you for taking the time to read this.


[The author of the above comments has given permission for them to be published here.]