TechnoTutor and PowereDucation: Building a Brick Wall

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[Note Aug 2017: Desteni is no longer affiliated with the US-based TechnoTutor company. The following article serves as a record of events.]

The TechnoTutor 'Vocabulary Development Technology' business is owned, managed and marketed almost exclusively by members of Desteni. 

Yet Desteni claims that it 'does not own any part of TechnoTutor'.

While Desteni has officially endorsed TechnoTutor none of the TechnoTutor websites or salespersons ever mention that the origins and development of the 'educational software' company are inextricably linked to Desteni, and in turn the 'non-profit' behind it, the Equal Life Foundation.

Back in 2007, the group's founder, Bernard Poolman, introduced his ideas about 'Living Words' or 'redefining words' for 'self-forgiveness' with the help of 'educational software'. 

Poolman's ideas about vocabulary and 'living words' were later expanded upon in a series of blog posts entitled, Redefining Words, by his co-founder in Desteni, Esteni De Wet. Such ideas are integral to the Desteni I Process and references to 'vocabulary' and 'living words' can be found throughout material produced by Destonians.  

Prior to the launch of Desteni in 2007, De Wet ran an 'educational software' business with Poolman named PowerEducation by MindTechnology. 

A review in 2004 by a student whose masters project was 'to find means for deploying networks and computers in schools in South Africa' stated that the PowerEducation website was full of 'lots of rubbish about how their packages will improve your life... in fact they reckon that people who are illiterate usually land up killing themselves due to depression and they are making products that will prevent this'.

It stated that the PowerEducation sales pitch contained 'so much emotive speech and "propaganda" that you want to vomit', and that the software was way overpriced.

This year's VICE magazine article, Meet the Struggling South African Cult That Tried to Kill Demon Hitler, quoted an ex-PowerEducation employee who said the software was sold to parents who were 'manipulated' into believing it was worth R12,000 [$1,030] when it was only worth R400 [$35]. 

Poolman's 2005 PowerEducation website stated: 'building effective information processing skills is like building a brick wall'.

Circa 2007-09, Poolman made his 'educational software' available through desteni.co.za under the name, 'Desteni Vocabulary Builder' or 'Purifier'. 

As listed under 'Other Cults' on a Scientology wiki and numerous other sites, the original desteni.co.za website was registered to Esteni at powereducation.co.za.

By 2010, the 'Desteni Vocabulary Builder' was no longer provided via desteni.co.za, but a member of the group, Cameron Cope of Texas, began selling 'educational software' through another company called Desteni Education.

Cope posted several times at the Cult Education Forum in an attempt to deflect criticism that suggested he was using the sale of the software to recruit children and parents into the cult of Desteni.

In one of his posts, he stated that he originally wanted to call the company, 'Techno Tutor', but the name at the time was unavailable.

The sales pitch for Desteni Education was worded in almost exactly the same way as Poolman's PowerEducation and was about 'building a brick wall'. 

In 2010, Ferdi Poolman of South Africa alleged that his brother, Bernard, had stolen the 'reading and language' programme from his educational software company, Readers are Leaders. 

After that, Cope began using different company names, including PerfectMind Tutoring, AConduitMarketing and Techno Tutor. In 2013, the same year Bernard Poolman died, TechnoTutor LLC was formed by Cope and other Destonians.

Esteni De Wet is currently a UK director of TechnoTutor. 

VICE magazine also reported that De Wet's parents were involved in the early days of Desteni, which were said to have been fuelled by the drug, Ecstasy. 

Frans De Wet was listed as a member of PowerEducation's Club 25 in 2005, and Francois De Wet is currently a TechnoTutor South Africa director. 

Bernard Poolman's daughter owns technotutor.co.za as well as desteni.org. 

In a recent interview with the Student Operated Press, Cope delivered a sales pitch for TechnoTutor in which he repeated Poolman's hokey metaphor about 'building a brick wall'.

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VICE magazine reported this year that Cope was initially open to an interview, but after he was asked about the connection between PowerEducation and TechnoTutor, gave no reply.

The TechnoTutor websites do not state its price or the cost of distribution rights.

There is no record of tests or reviews of TechnoTutor by any independent experts, and there has been no peer-reviewed study of it published in any educational technology journal.

An ex-customer of the product described it as 'way overpriced overhyped and subpar', set up a webpage to warn people, posted at the Cult Education Forum, and said he was offered a refund if he removed his posts, but he didn't. 

A Destonian recently asked for donations to help 'solve the education crisis' and wrote about joining the TechnoTutor team at GoFundMe: 'To be a part of this team and fulfill my vision, I am asked for a significant investment of $60,000'. Yet she failed to provide a budget and raised only $620.

In 2012 TechnoTutor was reportedly sold at €2,490 [$3,123]. At the Cult Education Forum in 2014 it was said that distribution rights were being sold at $24,000. 

There are testimonials for TechnoTutor from people who are almost all known members of Desteni, and one from Dr. Roland Estrabillo, a dentist who said he used TechnoTutor to pass a certification exam. 

He was found guilty in 2011 by The Royal College of Dental Surgeons of Ontario of 'disgraceful, dishonourable, and unethical conduct including charging excessive fees and providing unnecessary dental services'. 

Estrabillo, along with Cope and several other Destonian TechnoTutor salespersons, is a member of the Global Information Network, a Multi-Level Marketing scam started by fraudster and convicted criminal, Kevin Trudeau. 

Related posts:

TechnoTutor
Techno Tutor: A Front for Desteni?
Vice Reports on the Struggling South African Cult of Desteni
Bernard Poolman, Satanic Cult Leader?

Cultish Behaviour Patterns - Desteni Doomed - 3

Ivan Rauscher

(continued from Desteni Doomed - 1: The Voice of a Sane Organization? / 2: Cult Awareness)

In a recent video called the Desteni Cult? Johnathan Motz said that he and other Destonians type 'shit' about thoughts, emotions, feelings etc and 'what the fuck happened during our day'; they forgive and correct themselves for all the 'shit' they have 'allowed' so as not to keep repeating patterns, and then they 'walk' it to change patterns. 

He asks: is it cultish to actually think that writing, applying self-forgiveness, applying self-corrective statements and walking it -- is that cultish behaviour?

It may be that after watching thousands of videos of Sunette Spies and passing the Desteni portal idiot test individuals such as Motz joined the cult of self-forgiveness because they imagined that the Desteni material was startlingly new, original or even the ultimate truth.

Destonians fail to understand that although Desteni claims to be opposed to spirituality, the Desteni material has in fact only ever been a rip-off of New Age occultism and spirituality. It has been fabricated out of a poorly constructed re-hash of ideas already found in works by New Agers, mystics and occultists such as Louise Hay, Alice A. Bailey, Paul Twitchell, David Icke, Aleister Crowley, George I. Gurdjieff, Osho Rajneesh, Anton LaVey, Baird T. Spalding and others.

Destonians are under the false impression that because Desteni claims to stand for equality then they must be doing something useful in terms of helping to bring about equality. But Desteni or Destonians are not practically engaged in any issues of equality, equal rights, social justice or politics whatsoever. 'Equality' in Desteni is just a front; a slogan and a gimmick. Desteni has nothing to do with equality.

Johnathan Motz has not addressed even one of the various different points raised by critics of Desteni over the years. But this is to be expected. Desteni supporters have never carried out any proper research and applied themselves to the question of Desteni as cult.

Bernard Poolman implies in his Twitter and YouTube account descriptions that Desteni is perhaps 'social engineering'. Certainly, strategies of social engineering are used all the time by scammers and cults to deceive the public. Manipulating people into performing actions or divulging confidential information is how self-forgiveness in Desteni works (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security)).

In his video, Anti Desteni Movement, Poolman stated that the anti-Desteni movement, which exposes Desteni as a cult and a scam, 'forms an integral part of the Desteni process'. Obviously, the anti-Desteni movement is by definition against Desteni, but as Poolman admits, it can be considered a 'process' involving Desteni because it can deter people from joining the group.

Johnathan Motz's video is like every other video or blog in which 'Destonians' have tried to deny that Desteni is a cult, such as in their 'anti-hate' videos last year. They did so by dutifully repeating cult buzzwords, catch phrases and slogans, thereby they re-affirmed the fact that they had been socially engineered to repeat cultish behaviour patterns.

Only 'Destonians' speak or write using such half-arsed, stilted jargon as 'applying the tools' of 'self-forgiveness' and 'self-correction' and 'walking it' to 'birth life equal and one in the physical'. Motz has repeated all this and the doublethink refrain every other Desteni supporter has already repeated about anyone who says Desteni is a cult: they 'have not done the research' and 'haven't applied the tools'.

Apparently, according to Destonians, Desteni is not a cult because the people who say it is are not Destonians.  

This is why Poolman says he's grateful to the anti-Desteni movement: it presents the evidence that Desteni is a cult while he can rely on the commitment of people like Motz because they are willing to disregard the evidence, dispense with logic, suspend their critical faculties and pay to work for Poolman's 'Desteni' cult.

However, Poolman's perspective is self-defeated. His social engineering con tricks are so formulaic and clichéd it is obvious he has deliberately set out to create a cult. It may be psychologically damaging for those involved but is rather more a futile exercise in social engineering. All it proves is something already widely known: some people can be made to follow cultish behaviour patterns or with the right information they can avoid it.

Since their main channels were terminated by YouTube, the output of Desteni and their supporters has become increasingly repetitive; Motz's video being only one example. Their current output is lacking in content that could possibly be of real interest to anyone but the 100-150 or so persons already listed at Desteni websites as 'The Destonians'. And if you do a bit of research and investigation you will see that quite a few of their number these days appear to be lapsed or ex-members with no currently active blogs or YouTube channels. Maybe they're just bored with being involved in a group which only exists to prove it can socially engineer people to repeat cultish behaviour patterns.

Desteni Doomed - 4: Related Material Elsewhere

Related posts:
Re AntiHate Desteni Fabrications
Anti-Human Desteni Hate Machine

Cult Awareness - Desteni Doomed - 2

Ivan Rauscher

(continued from Desteni Doomed - 1: The Voice of a Sane Organization?)

In a talk entitled, Cult Bashers are Con Artists, the main spokesperson for the Desteni organisation, Bernard Poolman tells listeners to be aware that exit counselor / cult expert, Rick Ross and others express ideas about Desteni being a cult in a confident way and can thereby instill fear. 

The Desteni thread at the Cult Education Forum run by the Rick A. Ross Institute began in 2008 and is over 100 pages long. Like many groups before them, Desteni dish the dirt on Rick Ross, but Mr Ross has in fact only ever made a very few public statements about Desteni, probably the most significant being:

Desteni seems to be an enterprise essentially dominated by Poolman and personality-driven. It apparently contains his conspiracy theories, seemingly denigrates the outside world and perhaps ultimately serves as a 'cash cow', which Poolman seems to milk for his income. In my opinion Desteni can easily be seen as a 'cult-like' and potentially unsafe group.

But it doesn't take an expert to figure it out: anyone can see Desteni is quite obviously a New Age-style 'channeling' cult running a Multi-Level Marketing scheme. At the Soulpancake website recently one concerned individual wrote that the Desteni website 'screams "CULT"'. Another describes it as 'a poor man's Scientology'. Similar observations have been made on countless other websites and forums: the Skeptic Project, David Icke's Official Forums, the 2012 Hoax, the Ex Scientologist Message Board, Above Top Secret, Godlike Productions and many more.

Mr Poolman repeats his catch phrase, 'what is best for all', as if Desteni has to be 'what is best for all'. It is common knowledge that cults always claim to be best for all. That is partly what makes them cults. Naturally, being cult members, those persons identifying themselves as 'Destonians' will tend to resist awareness of how cults operate. That is, in this instance with repeated use of jargon and catch phrases and claims towards being the only group in the world that is for the universal greater good.

Cults usually present themselves as unfairly persecuted by fear-mongers and liars. At the Destonian Wiki, this blog is described as 'Internet Bullying, Propagation of Lies, Individual Harassment'. URLs of this blog and many but not all of the YouTube channels criticising Desteni are listed with the warning that the reader may visit these sites 'at your own risk', as if it is somehow dangerous to read a blog or website or watch a video that merely criticises, mocks or satirises Desteni.

Criticising, mocking or satirising statements of a group or individual in blogs, forums or videos is not the same thing as 'internet bullying' or 'individual harassment'. Neither is it perpetrating a scam or hoax, as Desteni also claim.

In Cult Bashers are Con Artists, Poolman repeats another of his tiresome slogans, 'the actual practical message of Jesus', which is what he says his group represents. Then he makes an even more ludicrous statement: that atheism is also 'the message of Jesus'.

Cult leaders have very often claimed their groups represent the message of Jesus. And cults like Jim Jones' People's Temple, Heaven's Gate, Aum Shinrikyo, The Order of the Solar Temple also made doomsday predictions.

Desteni doomsday predictions -- 2007

In 2007, Desteni released a document stating that 'Heaven will withdraw World Leaders, Political Leaders, Religious Leaders, Corporate Leaders and Crime Leaders in months to come' and that 'Children will be able to see Beings from Heaven everywhere and communicate freely'.

In a supposed 'portalling' of Edgar Cayce (1877–1945), doomsday prophecies were made by the Desteni group about world-wide tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, massive earthquakes, snowstorms, volcanic eruptions. 

After their main channels were terminated in 2011 by YouTube for 'spam, scams and commercially deceptive content', and Vimeo for violation of the terms of contract, and they had become known for sporting skinheads, the 'principles of equality and oneness' group abandoned their FaceWorldFaceOff campaign to 'get at least 100 million people to shave off their hair as a statement of Standing up in no longer participation in the hair industry'.

They voluntarily removed content pertaining to Adolf Hitler from their website. They began blogging about their need for self-forgiveness on a daily basis, branding it as a 'seven-year Journey to Life'.

After initially predicting that their 'Equal Money System' would by 2020 start to become the inevitable outcome of everyone in the world voting for it, they reduced it to a 'research and development Project to formulate and investigate responses to general policies'.  

They launched an offshoot business selling the Techno Tutor software at an extortionate price. They have published numerous translations of their material in various languages. They have offered cut-price and 'blogging for sponsorship' deals for courses in Desteni 'self-mastery'.

None of this seems to have made any difference to their membership count. Their free Desteni I Process Lite course is another attempt to increase numbers but as with their other schemes typically lacks both the potential for popular appeal and any business acumen. 

Not only do Destonians appear incapable of addressing the question of the cult-like attributes of their group, they fail to recognise that 'Desteni' has no social, cultural or political credibility.

Unsurprisingly, since 2007, after publishing thousands of videos, articles and hundreds of blogs, Desteni have still only recruited around 100-150 active participants world-wide.

Desteni Doomed - 3: Cultish Behaviour Patterns

New Age Occultism of Desteni Equal Money System

Ivan Rauscher

The New Age Ain't What It's Cracked Up To Be

Since 2007, after having published thousands of videos, articles and numerous websites, the Desteni group of Kwa-Zulu Natal, South Africa have persuaded only about 100-150 superstitious New Agers and paranoid conspiracy theorists to take part in their 'process'. After entering the Desteni 'process' these persons replace their previous, more typical New Age or conspiracy theories and beliefs with re-worked versions of the same deceptive theories and beliefs.

Much of the Desteni material is made up of an apparent critique of New Age religion. For example, all their recent responses to a video used to promote the laughable New Age 'channeling' cult of Abraham-Hicks (such as The BIGGEST Missing Piece - Response to Abraham Hicks), where it is clear they are trying to recruit disillusioned Abraham-Hicks and 'Law of Attraction' followers. This is also why they label so many Desteni videos '2012' to appeal to believers in the 2012 hoax.

It seems that Bernard Poolman and the Desteni group are under the impression that New Age religion is the most dominant, all-pervasive influence in society. Therefore it has to be re-assessed and corrected in order for society to change. It is as though they are stuck in a time-loop after reading the likes of Shirley MacLaine's Out On A Limb and imagining that it's all very cutting edge have on reflection come to the conclusion that maybe the New Age scene is not quite what it's all cracked up to be. So to improve matters they re-configure already existing New Age ideas, change the terminology a bit and give some different emphases, like 'equality' instead of 'spirituality', thereby contriving just another New Agey philosophy, albeit mostly subliterate and even more irrational and demented than the original material they try to critique.

Bernard Poolman has invented stories to the effect that due to his efforts 'heaven' has been purified and 'the dimensions' or 'White Light', ascended masters, reincarnation etc no longer exist, as if these things ever did exist other than as fictions and myths of New Age religion.  

According to Desteni, humans were designed by reptilians

Like the fans of New Age conspiracy creator, David Icke, Destonians accept as fact the spurious notion that human beings were designed by Anunnaki reptilians, but they take that one step further into delusion and madness and also believe there are 'mind consciousness systems' of Anunnaki reptilian gods, aliens, dead people, animals and inanimate objects which communicate important messages for all humankind via Sunette Spies of Desteni, whom they see as an interdimensional portal to 'heaven' or 'the dimensions'.

Yet the founder of the morbid Desteni Reptilian Channeling Cult, Bernard Poolman, has stated: Understand that the message from Desteni is not really the message from the portal. The portal is a demonstration of what is possible in the physical. The message is actually from me.  

In The History and Purpose of Channeling, Poolman writes that the masters that were channeling told him all channels were preprogrammed according to the instructions of the White Light and the Annunaki.

The assumed veracity of that statement and almost all of Poolman's statements rests on its theoretical premise as stereotypical, clichéd New Age doctrine posing as objective fact merely on the basis of it being a re-worked version of previous well-worn fantasies and dogma of New Age religion. 


Cross-Referencing Fact & Fiction

Stories about Anunnaki reptilians are also at the Xee-A Twelve website where Amitakh Stanford relays paranoid schizophrenic sci-fi conspiracy theories. Like all New Age conspiracists, Stanford is critical of the New Age scene yet her ideas are derived entirely from mythologies of occultism. Many New Age conspiracists have this contradictory point of view, probably because they have been influenced by right-wing Christian fundamentalist conspiracy theories which label occultism and the New Age movement as 'evil' tools of the nefarious Illuminati secret society.

Around 2008-9, Darryl W. Thomas of Desteni publicly acknowledged and praised the striking similarities between the works of Amitakh Stanford and the Desteni material at the previous, now deleted Desteni forum.

Another version of the fantastical Annunaki theories are part of the Nuwaubian Movement as created by Dr Malachi Z. York AKA Dwight York, author of 'The Holy Tablets', which is jam-packed full of New Age occultism. YouTube channel, ONEMNOOPOOH presents Nuwaubian videos as complementary to Desteni, and another New Age conspiracist Internet phenomenon known as WingMakers.

Again, strong similarities between 'the message' of WingMakers and the Desteni materials were noted by Desteni members some years ago on their previous, now deleted forum as well as at the WingMakers forum. More recently, the issue was raised by a poster asking, WINGMAKERS SAME MESSAGE THAN DESTENI? WingMakers also peddles idiotic fairy tales about Anunnaki reptoids. The strap-line for the WingMakers' Sovereign Integral project is ‘Here in breath... every breath. No mind to refract reality’, which is another cliché of New Age religion and fits exactly the Desteni outlook.

The Desteni process involves key figures in the group represented as having special abilities to access 'the dimensions'. One of Poolman’s closest collaborators, Esteni de Wet, acts as clairvoyant oracle and talks about levers, tentacles, rods, stars, dust or daggers which she claims she can see on or around the bodies of Destonians. She and other 'Desteni I Process' trainers conjure up such imagery to attempt to symbolise the psychological or 'interdimensional' state of some of the rank and file Destonians.

The Desteni material, in particular their 'History of Man' series, has many parallels with L. Ron Hubbard’s sci-fi pseudo-religion of Scientology, in which it is said that 'demons', 'bypass circuits in the mind' or 'engrams' recorded as image pictures of experiences created by 'the reactive mind' can be made 'clear'. The state of 'clear' in Scientology would equate with being 'birthed as equal as one in the physical' in Desteni. Although touted as a religion or 'science of the mind', it is well-known that the pernicious cult of Scientology is founded on occultism.

At the top of the Desteni recommended reading list, which has mysteriously been removed from public view, was Baird T Spalding's 'Life and Teachings of the Masters of the Far East'. In Poolman’s article, The History and Purpose of Channeling he references Spalding’s work as if it were factual, when it has been proven to be fictional. 

Rosicrucian 'Mastery of Self' circa 1947

New Age religion and occultism follow the Doctrine of Correspondences of the ancient Hermetic philosophers as exemplified by the saying, 'As above, so below' ('as within, so without') which Poolman is very fond of reciting (e.g.: As Above, So Below - That which is Immortal in Heaven, Shall be Immortal on Earth). The Doctrine of Correspondences is also the defining principle of homoeopathy where it is called the Doctrine of Signatures. In The Future of Homeopathy in an Equal Money System Poolman stupidly says that homoeopathy will in the future become the primary medicinal health support world-wide.

Historically, occultism is the progenitor of the contemporary consumer marketing phenomenon that is New Age religion. New Age religion does include some insights about the human condition and some intriguing imaginative concepts but is almost entirely over-run by plagiarists, frauds, self-appointed visionaries and gurus, charlatans, fake psychics and mediums, philosophical fiction writers selling bogus money-making books and courses on 'self-mastery' or 'self-realisation'.

The philosophy of occultism that underpins New Age religion presents fabulous tales, fantastic cosmologies and seemingly wondrous philosophical and psychological theories and symbols. It adopts and adapts religious and scientific terminologies but is 'heretical' or subversive in relation to religion and always pseudo-scientific. Occultism is generally regarded as a discredited, superstitious and archaic philosophy but continues to evolve in a variety of ever-changing guises. Politically, occultism very often presents its mythologies and practices as a blueprint for a future paradisical Utopian society, hence the term, 'new age'. This takes shape in Desteni in the form of their 'equal' money system cult scam.


Spam, Scams & Commercially Deceptive Content

Destonians have constructed endless promo videos and spam blogs in which they repeat vacuous slogans about 'equal money' being a 'system' that will transform human behaviour and bring about 'heaven on earth' when enough people 'join Desteni', become 'self-realised' or 'birthed as the physical' (as opposed to 'enlightened') and eventually form an 'Equal Life Party'. All of it is purely in order to solicit donations and advertise and enroll recruits into sleazy capitalist ventures such as the Desteni I Process courses in so-called 'self-mastery' and the sale of the Desteni-branded 'self-perfection' merchandise.

Last year, YouTube terminated the BernardPoolman, DesteniProductions and other Desteni-run channels because of their violation of YouTube policies against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content, and complaints made against their videos on Nazi leader, Adolf Hitler. Immediately afterwards, Desteni attempted to migrate to the Vimeo video site but were promptly banned from there as well. The Desteni I Process is a Multi-Level Marketing scam, hence illegal on Vimeo.

Afterwards, Destonians claimed that they had been banned for talking about equality. It seems they have even managed to deceive themselves into imagining that it is somehow controversial or taboo to talk about equality. 

Articles on Desteni were published by South African newspaper, Sontag. An ex-member of the cult was reported as describing Bernard Poolman as into group sex, gambling and drugs (See: The Phantom of Okahandja and the CultEducation Forum).


Self-Forgiveness Via Nazi Mysticism

In a bid to avoid further risk of adverse publicity, the 'Desteni' group voluntarily removed from their website a so-called 'book' called 'I Am Hitler' by Bernard Poolman; a diatribe against all humankind (as is practically all Poolman's output) in which Adolf Hitler is portrayed as a supremely powerful demonic entity that Poolman is supposed to have communicated with in 'demon dimensions'.

The text can still be found at the Wayback Machine and the inane videos of Sunette Spies supposedly 'channeling' or 'portalling' Hitler can still be found on one or another of their numerous other YouTube channels that survived the culling (sometimes she uses an alternative fake name given to Hitler by Poolman: MyKey). 

Without providing any explanation, Destonians claimed they had again been misunderstood. It is rather more that they have misunderstood. Poolman's portrayal of the Nazi Führer as Christ-like interdimensional super-demon showing the way to 'self-forgiveness' is the same as the Esoteric Hitlerism AKA Nazi Mysticism or Occult Fascism as described by scholars such as recently deceased Nicholas Goodrich-Clarke.  

One of the main proponents of Esoteric Hitlerism, Miguel Serrano, described its central Drama as the apparition on this earth of the Person Adolf Hitler, the last Avatar, who came to produce this enormous storm, or catastrophe, in order to awaken all those who are asleep, and to commence the New Age, which will come after the Deluge.

That is exactly how Hitler is described by Poolman, as emerging newly redeemed from 'demon dimensions' by virtue of Poolman's instructions to usher in the new age of Equal Money System through self-forgiveness:

Hitler is presenting this experience as a help, as a gift. Unwrap yourself, forgive yourself. Ask Hitler questions. Ask Jesus, as God as yourself to guide you. Not the God of words and believes. Look at creation. Who are you in creation? Do you have any power but in yourself? Abuse will stop. In the years to come there will come, there will be a weeping and a gnashing of teeth. Hear Hitler. He has been here on earth. He has been a demon. He forgave himself. He saw and sees who you really are. (Bernard Poolman- Hitler and Forgiveness)

Donald Herman, a South African New Ager who visited the Desteni farm in 2007, described Poolman as a 'follower and disciple of Hitler' with a 'background of intense contact with Adolph Hitler' and this was discussed in another post here, Bernard Poolman, Satanic Cult Leader?

The Destonians quite seriously put forward the nonsensical idea that everyone thinks Hitler is the ultimate evil but no-one recognises that poverty and starvation are worse. They seem to imagine that Poolman has gifted human beings with a sublime allegory in which Hitler expresses 'self-forgiveness' and so now everyone should forgive themselves, 'join Desteni', talk in psychobabble and become a wannabe amateur con-artist and promote all the spam, scams, deceptive content and crappy merchandise concocted by the Desteni gang by making personal self-confessional self-forgiveness blogs. 

At least one Destonian now admits that participating in the Desteni 'process', contrary to previous claims, may not after all, help them get into politics in seven or twenty years' time. Although, she does add, it doesn't matter because 'the process' remains the same.

Related posts:

Bernard Poolman, Satanic Cult Leader?

The Cult of Self-Forgiveness

Equal Money System Reptilian Channeling Cult

Desteni Portal Idiot Test

Desteni’s New Age Guru

Desteni Hoax Theory

Desteni Hoax Theory: the Desteni 'tools' make some people feel so inferior that they resort to perpetrating hoaxes

On a new page at http://desteni.org/cult the Desteni group attempt to address criticism. Expressing a point of view is of course not the same as perpetrating a hoax but Desteni put forward the theory that expressing the point of view that Desteni is a cult is the same as creating a 'hoax'.

They go on to state that anyone criticising Desteni is spreading hate and lies as a reaction to experiencing themselves as 'inferior' to 'the tools' of Desteni. This seems to slightly contradict their previous idea that people who say Desteni is a cult are perpetrating a 'hoax'.

Hoaxers know what they are doing. Hoaxing is a conscious act. Whereas, someone who reacts and lashes out against something because they feel inferior to it is acting without awareness of what they are doing.

Then again, if we assume that both things are true then Desteni are proposing that the reason why so many people are critical of Desteni is because they have decided to tell lies in order to compensate for their conscious feelings of inferiority in relation to the 'tools' of Desteni. But in that case, surely when so many people react in such a manner, and so many more just ignore the Desteni 'message' then this must be a result of the way Desteni communicate their ideas?

One of the headings at http://desteni.org/cult is 'Deceptive information about Desteni buzzwords'. This suggests that they intend to describe deceptive information to do with Desteni buzzwords but actually that's not what it's supposed to mean. It's just badly worded.

The reasons why Desteni is deceptive, fraudulent, a scam and a cult has been explained several times over by numerous different people from various backgrounds and at a whole range of different venues, including the Cult Education Forum where there are over a hundred pages of discussion on the subject.  

As for the idea that Destonians are 'communists', this perception arises from the fact that the way they present 'Equal Money System' is such that it comes across as a blueprint for a totalitarian state a bit like, for example, Soviet Russia. However, Destonians don't really have any genuine political ideas at all, apart from their vague and incoherent fantasies about what it would be like if Desteni ruled the world.

Desteni I Process is Multi-Level Marketing, which is not much different to a pyramid scheme. Destonians themselves have described DIP as MLM (see: http://www.mlmwatch.org for more info on MLM and pyramid schemes).

Under the heading, 'How to identify deceptive information', they state: 'Apply critical thinking and common sense while evaluating the information presented'. Needless to say, the claims made by Desteni that human beings were 'designed' by reptilians, or that a Desteni 'Equal Life Party' is going to be voted in by the people to run a one-world government that is 'best for all' are irrational, false and utterly ridiculous. Such ideas defy common sense and are devoid of any of the concepts or principles of critical thinking.

They state: 'always check the source of the information in question'. The best and most reliable sources of information that prove Desteni is a scam and a cult are desteni.org and associated websites, but as stated in our disclaimer, editors of this blog encourage readers to do their own research and cross-referencing.  

As well as perpetrating a 'hoax', and telling lies because they feel 'inferior', Desteni also have another unexplained theory that critics of Desteni are running 'scams'. This is even more silly, not least because there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone who has ever criticised Desteni has done so in order to try to con anyone else to part with their money.

A real hoax: Swiss Spaghetti Harvest 1957

Hitler channeling cult censored?

Ivan Rauscher

All chapters of Bernard Poolman’s so-called ‘book’, ‘I Am Hitler’ have been removed from public access at desteni.co.za, including Poolman’s article, ‘Hitler and Forgiveness’. (However, it is still archived here.)

Whether or not this is in response to warnings from the desteni.co.za web host, Hetzner.co.za, and just a temporary act of self-censorship on the part of Poolman, is at present unknown and there is no comment made at the site.

Poolman's ‘I Am Hitler’ was a central part of the Desteni material at desteni.co.za and the original desteni-universe website, as were videos of Sunette Spies pretending to be Hitler speaking from ‘beyond the grave’ on the now defunct YouTube channel, Desteniproductions. 

Terminations of Desteniproductions and Bernard Poolman's YouTube channels were due to their promotion of Multi-Level Marketing, regarded by YouTube as ‘commercially deceptive content’, but also because of complaints against the Desteni Hitler material. 

To say that Adolf Hitler is an example of ‘self-forgiveness’ verges on support for Nazism. If a member of ‘desteni’ made such a statement in a place of work where, as in the UK, there are laws in support of Equal Opportunities, they would lose their job.

Poolman's romanticisation of himself as the redeemer of the Nazi leader is a crude attempt to rehabilitate the historical figure of Adolf Hitler in the minds of impressionable people. Poolman's fan club have claimed that ‘what Hitler did for the German people was full employment and no crime’, when full employment and ‘no crime’ were brought about in Germany by the Nazis waging all-out war against other nations and legalising the terrorising, torturing and killing of Jews and other minorities. 

But in Poolman's ‘desteni’, Hitler's economic policies are meant to show how an ‘equal money system’ might work, and ‘equality’ involves seeing Hitler as a model of ‘self-forgiveness’. It means denouncing friends and family as ‘demonic’ and damning outsiders as psychopaths who are ‘unworthy of life’ -- as if such notions could be of any use to anyone. 

They all revolve around the ridiculous idea that dead movie and rock stars, occultists, dictators, reptilians, mythical beings and various inanimate objects have told Mr. Poolman -- via some waitress he picked up in a café -- that they have ‘forgiven’ themselves in the afterlife or in ‘the dimensions’ -- as if that were an unquestionable revelation of ‘equality’. 

Mr. Poolman tries to hijack liberal concepts of equality to try to make his financial scams, bigotry and tawdry fantasies about famous historical or fictional characters seem relevant and appealing. But he is unconvincing.

‘Equality’, the ‘equal money system’, the so-called ‘lifestyle concept’ of the Desteni I Process MLM scam and requests for donations at desteni.co.za are all so many tacky marketing devices to raise funds to maintain the ‘lifestyle’ of the people who live on, and sell holidays at the Desteni farm in South Africa.

Just as Poolman has never met Hitler or anyone else in ‘the afterlife’, heaven or in ‘demon dimensions’, he, Sunette Spies and all their buddies and deluded, obedient sycophants have nothing whatever to do with equality.

‘Desteni’ is a fraudulent organisation. It only exists to promote Bernard Poolman's xenophobic, misanthropic world view. Its members misrepresent, abuse and pervert principles of equality in support of their own enslavement under his totalitarian fantasy of an ‘Equal Life Party’. In spite of their empty claims that they are a ‘threat to the system’, they are a threat only to themselves and the naïve, idealistic New Ager conspiracy theorists they try to prey on, groom and recruit. 

Desteni material banned by web host

Ivan Rauscher

As previously reported at this blog, at Destenigossip and Muertos's blog, this month has been a bad one for Desteni.

Their main channels containing over 3000 videos were wiped off YouTube for promoting hate speech with their channelling Hitler videos, and for spam, scams and commercially deceptive content.

They tried to migrate to Vimeo and were promptly banned for violating the Vimeo Community Guidelines. Apparently, they hadn't bothered reading them, because if they had they would've seen that Vimeo does not allow Multi-Level Marketing.

As well as this, Desteni had to change their Desteni I Process logo design, because it was a rip-off of the Apple AppStore logo, and they were in danger of being sued by Apple for copyright violation.

Now it has come to our attention that once again certain individuals (not associated with this blog) have reported Desteni scam websites to their web host, Hetzner.co.za. Hetzner is originally a German company: hetzner.de.

Hetzner.co.za have got Desteni to delete these pages:

http://desteni.co.za/a/hitler-part-1-experience-of-life-on-earth
http://www.desteniiprocess.com/income
http://www.desteni-universe.co.za
http://demonology.co.za/about

However, it seems that Desteni have re-uploaded the document that was at this page: http://www.desteniiprocess.com/income to http://desteniiprocess.com/pages/display/income/front

To avoid any further strikes against them by Hetzner, Desteni may possibly be transferring all their web content to their own servers.

One of the persons who reported the Desteni scam to Hetzner was sent an email from Hetzner including a reply from Desteni, to which the reply was:

Hi

 I'm not sure if this means you require my response? I have done so anyway:

 Please note the definition of a Pyramid Multi Level Marketing Scheme, illegal in South Africa and many other countries:

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 A pyramid scheme MLM, however, will most likely sell a product with no independent value. The product could take the form of reports of some kind, for example, or mailing lists. In this kind of pyramid scheme, you would be required to recruit new members into the MLM in order to make a profit and keep the MLM alive. Joining the MLM is the only reason anyone would buy the products sold by this pyramid scheme.

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 Like any MML scheme that tries to cover it's fraud, Desteni would have people believe it is based on "Commissions" and "Bonuses". There is no value to the "product" nor the "training". They are not recognized by the board of education, have no legitimate teaching certificates or degrees. The only reason recruits are lured into the Desteni scam is on the premise that the more people they recruit, the more "commission" they make down the line.

 As for the Hitler page:

 "Interdimensional Being portalling" is not recognized, proven scientifically or in any way realistic. If anyone had to believe they could be possessed / channel / portal a dead person like Hitler it is most likely a doctor or psychologist would refer to them as schitsophrenic. Regardless, it is not an issue as to the legitimacy of the person who claims to "portal" but the content which one can only consider as hate speech. Such content could be harmful to people who are mentally unstable, vulnerable or too young to understand. The videos and written content that Desteni spams on You Tube, Vimeo, Face Book and their own websites are not censored and are openly available to minors which should NOT be allowed.

 All members of Desteni censor comments that refute or argue against their claims and statements, thereby only allowing comments that are showing them to be in a positive light - this in itself is fraudulent and does not give people who are new to Desteni a chance to think of ramifications or opposing viewpoints.

 The fact that all Desteni members shave their heads, censor comments, speak nonsensical psycho-babble, mark any social media profile pictures with the Desteni logo's, name all the social profiles with either "Destonian" or "Anti-hate" and cut off from their family are all reminiscent of CULT behavior.

 Any sane person who heard the rants by Bernard Poolman and Sunnette Spies would agree that not only is Desteni a MML marketing scam, but it is also a dangerous cult.

 They use reverse psychology and various brain-washing techniques to entice vulnerable people to join their cult.

 The demonology page holds no proof, is not backed by any registered psychologist and is only used to attract vulnerable people to sign up for their fraudulent MML courses.

 I am not a religious fanatic (I am in fact, Agnostic) and their unscientific "research" is very well understood by myself as nothing more than a fraud and a scam, dangerous to anyone vulnerable and the youth.

 If their "teachings" are about "peace" and "equality" then why are negative comments about them censored and why is all their content related to violent rhetoric?

 As for "False flagging" every video that is flagged on You Tube is reviewed by You Tube staff, so I fail to understand how it could be "false" flagging. In fact if you falsely flag a video you run the risk of having your own account terminated.

 There are many other reasons I can give for having Desteni shut down, too many to mention in fact. I will state that I am in the process of speaking to police and to SARS to open investigations.

 Kind regards

[name witheld]