Desteni material banned by web host

Ivan Rauscher

As previously reported at this blog, at Destenigossip and Muertos's blog, this month has been a bad one for Desteni.

Their main channels containing over 3000 videos were wiped off YouTube for promoting hate speech with their channelling Hitler videos, and for spam, scams and commercially deceptive content.

They tried to migrate to Vimeo and were promptly banned for violating the Vimeo Community Guidelines. Apparently, they hadn't bothered reading them, because if they had they would've seen that Vimeo does not allow Multi-Level Marketing.

As well as this, Desteni had to change their Desteni I Process logo design, because it was a rip-off of the Apple AppStore logo, and they were in danger of being sued by Apple for copyright violation.

Now it has come to our attention that once again certain individuals (not associated with this blog) have reported Desteni scam websites to their web host, Hetzner.co.za. Hetzner is originally a German company: hetzner.de.

Hetzner.co.za have got Desteni to delete these pages:

http://desteni.co.za/a/hitler-part-1-experience-of-life-on-earth
http://www.desteniiprocess.com/income
http://www.desteni-universe.co.za
http://demonology.co.za/about

However, it seems that Desteni have re-uploaded the document that was at this page: http://www.desteniiprocess.com/income to http://desteniiprocess.com/pages/display/income/front

To avoid any further strikes against them by Hetzner, Desteni may possibly be transferring all their web content to their own servers.

One of the persons who reported the Desteni scam to Hetzner was sent an email from Hetzner including a reply from Desteni, to which the reply was:

Hi

 I'm not sure if this means you require my response? I have done so anyway:

 Please note the definition of a Pyramid Multi Level Marketing Scheme, illegal in South Africa and many other countries:

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 A pyramid scheme MLM, however, will most likely sell a product with no independent value. The product could take the form of reports of some kind, for example, or mailing lists. In this kind of pyramid scheme, you would be required to recruit new members into the MLM in order to make a profit and keep the MLM alive. Joining the MLM is the only reason anyone would buy the products sold by this pyramid scheme.

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 Like any MML scheme that tries to cover it's fraud, Desteni would have people believe it is based on "Commissions" and "Bonuses". There is no value to the "product" nor the "training". They are not recognized by the board of education, have no legitimate teaching certificates or degrees. The only reason recruits are lured into the Desteni scam is on the premise that the more people they recruit, the more "commission" they make down the line.

 As for the Hitler page:

 "Interdimensional Being portalling" is not recognized, proven scientifically or in any way realistic. If anyone had to believe they could be possessed / channel / portal a dead person like Hitler it is most likely a doctor or psychologist would refer to them as schitsophrenic. Regardless, it is not an issue as to the legitimacy of the person who claims to "portal" but the content which one can only consider as hate speech. Such content could be harmful to people who are mentally unstable, vulnerable or too young to understand. The videos and written content that Desteni spams on You Tube, Vimeo, Face Book and their own websites are not censored and are openly available to minors which should NOT be allowed.

 All members of Desteni censor comments that refute or argue against their claims and statements, thereby only allowing comments that are showing them to be in a positive light - this in itself is fraudulent and does not give people who are new to Desteni a chance to think of ramifications or opposing viewpoints.

 The fact that all Desteni members shave their heads, censor comments, speak nonsensical psycho-babble, mark any social media profile pictures with the Desteni logo's, name all the social profiles with either "Destonian" or "Anti-hate" and cut off from their family are all reminiscent of CULT behavior.

 Any sane person who heard the rants by Bernard Poolman and Sunnette Spies would agree that not only is Desteni a MML marketing scam, but it is also a dangerous cult.

 They use reverse psychology and various brain-washing techniques to entice vulnerable people to join their cult.

 The demonology page holds no proof, is not backed by any registered psychologist and is only used to attract vulnerable people to sign up for their fraudulent MML courses.

 I am not a religious fanatic (I am in fact, Agnostic) and their unscientific "research" is very well understood by myself as nothing more than a fraud and a scam, dangerous to anyone vulnerable and the youth.

 If their "teachings" are about "peace" and "equality" then why are negative comments about them censored and why is all their content related to violent rhetoric?

 As for "False flagging" every video that is flagged on You Tube is reviewed by You Tube staff, so I fail to understand how it could be "false" flagging. In fact if you falsely flag a video you run the risk of having your own account terminated.

 There are many other reasons I can give for having Desteni shut down, too many to mention in fact. I will state that I am in the process of speaking to police and to SARS to open investigations.

 Kind regards

[name witheld] 

Desteni's copyright violation of Apple logo

As was pointed out a few months ago, the design of the original Desteni I Process logo (also used generally as a Desteni logo) was a copyright violation. 

original Desteni I Process MLM logo

It was a copy of the Apple AppStore logo.

Apple AppStore logo

Apple Inc were eventually informed of this. It appears Apple took action and Desteni responded by changing their logo on the desteniiprocess.com and desteni.co.za websites. Desteni members will also have to change the logos on their avatars on Facebook and elsewhere.

D I Process: new logo

This is another indication that since the termination of their main YouTube channels, and as Desteni continue to publicise their 'equal money system' cult scam, they will continue to encounter more opposition and more setbacks.

Desteni cult copy Apple AppStore logo

The Desteni I Process logo is a copy of the Apple Patents AppStore Logo/Icon...

Desteni have issued countless false copyright violation notices to YouTube channels for publishing videos with insignificant Photoshopped images derived from Desteni images, use of which would come under fair use. Then they go and blatantly STEAL the design for their logo from one of the most well-known corporate brands on the planet. Crazy!