Wednesday, 18 January 2012

Desteni Rape Fantasy

Ivan Rauscher

Destonians have a fantasy about rape. It is that rapists do what they do because of other people's sexual fantasies.

The only non-Desteni cause Destonians ever show support for on their YouTube channels is AntiPornography.org. It is said that in the Equal Money System as proposed by Desteni, pornography will be banned. This implies that to ensure no-one would ever produce sexual imagery, no citizen would be allowed to own a camera. It implies that erotic images could somehow be eradicated on the basis that they would be accepted as a form of criminality.

How they'd bring it about is never explained, but Equal Money System is itself a fantasy. It exists to financially exploit and mentally and emotionally abuse people by moulding them into robotic spammers for a highly manipulative yet nonsensical cult philosophy.

Destonian, Markus Modin, in his videos, Secret Rape and 2012 Secret Rape pt.2, commented in a smug and humourless way on sexual fantasy and rape, as if aged 22 he could have the experience and background to be an authority on these matters. This boy counts among his favourite books those by outright charlatans and major influences on the New Age scene, George Gurdjieff, Alice A. Bailey and Baird T. Spalding, all of whom are in turn key influences on Bernard Poolman, the main instigator of the Desteni scam.

Since the writing of this post, the first of these videos has been made private and the second has been removed by YouTube for violation of the YT policy against spam, scams and commercially deceptive content. In any case, they are worth discussing here.

In these videos, Modin repeated by rote information acquired from previous statements by Sunette Spies, Bernard Poolman and other Destonians. He succinctly summed up the Desteni party line on sexual fantasy, rape, masturbation and pornography. He was not talking about these subjects because he was genuinely interested in openly discussing or debating them with other YouTubers, but simply in order to try to promote the Equal Money System scam which is to recruit for the Desteni I Process Multi-Level Marketing scheme, as well as to impress other Destonians.

Destonians believe masturbation should only occur without sexual fantasy and that 'breath orgasm' should replace masturbation. 'Breath orgasm' is a variation of a common practice popular in New Age Tantric circles, most often known as energy orgasm. It is just one of countless ideas Bernard Poolman has stolen from New Age sources to manufacture the Desteni material.

Modin communicated the strange fantasy induced in him through immersion in the Desteni material that sexual fantasy is 'indirect abuse' that 'supports rape'. He claimed rapists are a 'manifestation' of 'what is existent within ourselves' but did not describe how a rapist can possibly be a 'manifestation' of thoughts of other people or how everyone exists with a rapist within them. He did not define his use of the term, 'manifestation'. Modin claimed that 'sex has nothing to do with the mind', as if the brain was not a part of the body.

According to Modin, masturbating whilst looking at pornographic images is 'virtual rape' and entails 'supporting the thought of having sex with someone without their permission'. Pornography, he said, should be banned because it is 'producing psychopaths'. Yet again he offered no reasons or evidence to support his claims. All he managed to convey by his self-expression was how the Desteni core group in South Africa can utilise illogical, emotive and confusing tactics to make an individual such as Modin comply with the artificial construction of a 'purified', seemingly morally superior cult identity, complete with suit and tie.

Destonians like Modin are provided with the excuse to take up a self-righteous attitude towards others. By adhering to the propaganda of Desteni they fantasise that they can be relieved of and suppress any seemingly overwhelming sexual feelings or desires and take up the heroic cause of stopping all the abuse in the world by becoming smarmy salespersons for the Equal Money System cult scam. It is also how Destonians are persuaded into engaging in sexual relations with each other and no-one else.

They are manipulated at a fundamental level of inter-personal subjectivity in relation to sex and the very thought of sex. Destonians are convinced that they feel the need to 'forgive' themselves for having sexual fantasies, masturbating or looking at pornography. If they are concerned about over-indulging in these things, they are re-assured that being a Destonian, preaching the Desteni way of life and selling Desteni-related products to others will help them. Their sexuality is being manipulated and controlled by an obscure, repressive sect and money-making scam founded on delusional misrepresentations of occult and New Age philosophies.

Saturday, 14 January 2012

Thursday, 12 January 2012

Desteni in 2011

Here's an interesting round-up of events surrounding the banning of Desteni from YouTube in

Muertos's Blog 2011 Year End Wrap-Up, Part 2 by LosMuertos

as well as discussion of the Zeitgeist Movement, Occupy Wall Street, Thrive and other subjects. Part 1 is here.

Thursday, 22 December 2011

Awful Link of the Day: Desteni


Hello, Internet Traveler. I hope you find yourself well today. Do not fear our horned guardian. Welcome to Desteni, the Web site for finding enlightenment. Please ignore the credit card logos in the corner of your screen. We reject the notion of money as it is in the world today. Instead, we hope to move toward a system of equality, in which all people can find enlightenment through our system. Do not be afraid, but what you are about to hear will change your life for all eternity (oh, yeah, life is eternal, incidentally). I know you think we are crazy. I know you think you have seen videos of a similar nature on YouTube. I can assure you, dear friend, we are something you have never seen before.
Read more at Something Awful...

Saturday, 17 December 2011

The Truth Of Desteni

robertwlester

A strange group of people lead by a guru and teacher who preaches equality while asking for as many donations as possible, Bernard Poolman, the leader, is said to be self-honest and speaks pure common-sense while also being incapible of telling a lie since moving passed his personality.

In desteni, Bernard can never be wrong, can never be counteracted, and how this group became well know to many on YouTube was by the acting skills of a young woman, the woman, Sunette Spies, became know as the interdimensional portal, later she became the teacher for the Desteni 4 year educational program, while acting as the portal she claimed to leave her body while another being takes over her body to speak, such beings included Hitler, L Ron Hubbard, a vibrator, a gun, and various forms and people.

The Desteni cult used donation scams, money tiding systems, a basic pyramid scheme, and they still use such systems, although the main channels of Desteni were deleted by YouTube due to breaches of terms of service.


Sunday, 11 December 2011

Desteni anti-Matrix, Hitler’s Zion

0rdo Templi Aurora

Matrix Revolutions: Zion dock

The story of the land given by God
to the Israelites, described in the Hebrew Bible as the Promised Land or Zion is a facet of theology that occurs in various contexts, including African Independent Churches, the Rastafari movement and Mormonism, as well as the political movement for a sovereign Jewish homeland known as Zionism.

The Wachowski Brothers' Matrix franchise inspired by Gnosticism and cyberpunk depicts a science-fiction universe in which a machine-driven simulated reality imposes upon characters in the stories. In the Matrix Revolutions movie, Zion is an underground city of resistance against the domination of artificial lifeforms; the last place of human refuge on planet Earth.

This term, ‘the matrix’, has been taken from the Wachowski Brothers' movies and appropriated by conspiracy theory culture. There it is used as a metaphor to signify combined inter-related forces of a Zionist political elite run by the Illuminati and/or inter-dimensional, predominantly Jewish reptilian aliens as they conspire to force upon citizens the false reality of a globalist, fascistic so-called New World Order.

The mainly pseudo-historical connections between Nazism and the occult explored in popular books such as The Morning of the Magicians by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier and The Spear of Destiny by Trevor Ravenscroft, have been taken on by some neo-Nazi groups since the 1960s. These groups centre their beliefs and practices around the mythology of what has come to be known as the Nazi Mysteries. In this mythology, also called Esoteric Hitlerism or occult fascism, Adolf Hitler is viewed as a discarnate demonic entity holding the key to world domination. 

Adolf Hitler is regarded by the Desteni group of South Africa as a supreme example of ‘self-forgiveness’. Central to the Destonians' way of life is the story that Bernard Poolman taught ‘self-forgiveness’ to Hitler when he spoke with him through an interdimensional portal to ‘Demon Dimensions’ (Hitler Part 9 - The Interdimensional Portal, I Am Hitler by Bernard Poolman, deleted from desteni.co.za but archived here). While using the name, ‘MyKey’ to refer to Hitler, Poolman portrays the Nazi leader as an all-powerful demon. This is a type of Nazi Mysticism peculiar to Desteni.

On the Desteni farm
, such lunatic fringe beliefs and practices are indulged in as if they were true or reasonable. It is widely recognised that Hitler believed he was forgiven for ordering the destruction of Jewish people and others he regarded as sub-human, although he generally isn't admired for it. But amongst Destonians there is the distinct inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

In his article, Hitler and Forgiveness (which the Desteni group recently removed from their website but which was re-published at the Cult Education Forum), Bernard Poolman wrote:

NOW – NO MORE. Hear me. This is it. Man is presented this last opportunity to stop. Those that do, may enter peace. Those that don't, death will be the director. The after death experience is now as follows; Each being is placed in a cocoon of your self created reality throughout all existence and you must face it alone into infinity if necessary. This could be equated to the 40 years in the desert of the Israelites/Is real lights.
That is a Biblical reference to the Israelites' journey to the Promised Land, Zion. For the Destonians, the Desteni farm represents a refuge away from what they call ‘the current system of abuse’ or ‘the Matrix’ where the elite rule and ‘demons of the mind’ prevail. ‘The Matrix’ movies are favourites of Bernard Poolman and the Destonians. Going home after visiting the Desteni farm, Destonians casually refer to it as ‘returning to the Matrix’.

The crude political agenda of the equal money system, however absurd and nonsensical it is, appears to be in defence of a virtual sovereign nation-state of the land of Destonia as it takes dominion over the world to become a global New World Order founded on the tenets of Desteni. In striving towards world domination with their equal money system, promised to them by Bernard Poolman's psychotic visions in which he purified heaven to bring it to earth, the Destonians often refer to their dream of a four-year conscription period of Equal Labour. Equal Labour is imagined as taking place on farms or work camps, referred to by Poolman using the incorrect plural, kibbutzes.

Farm settlements going by the Hebrew name, kibbutzim are inextricably tied to recent Jewish history and the Zionist movement in
Israel. The word, ‘kibbutz’ has no relevant context or meaning except in relation to Jewish history. Poolman’s hijacking of the word, ‘kibbutz’, through its association with his organisation, which promotes the forgiveness of Adolf Hitler, appears as deliberate mockery of the Jewish people. At the same time it is as though Poolman views the Destonians as a persecuted minority with the right to self-determination.


Nazi eugenics propaganda poster

The land on which these ‘kibbutzes’ or work camps would be built would be host to the Destonians'
very own eugenics programme (no doubt dedicated to eliminating those they call unworthy of life and what Poolman calls the Jewish Principle of Profit from the Human Nature), and like the current Desteni farm, would constitute the Destonians' Promised Land, an anti-Matrix, another Zion: the Land of Destonia.



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Saturday, 3 December 2011

Equal Money System, political agenda of a cult

Ivan Rauscher

 [note: Since July 2013, Desteni's Equal Money System has been superseded by Living Income Guaranteed.]


Desteni video descriptions state ‘The Equal Money system will be a first step in the political agenda of the Equal Life Party worldwide once we start participating in democratic elections.’

There is no Equal Life Party. Apparently to get the ‘equal money system’ (EMS) started, unpaid volunteers make promotional webpages, but avoid publicising EMS any further afield. Except for Facebook and YouTube, they refuse to spread their message via the mainstream or alternative media, and they do not hold public meetings. 


Donations are solicited on the Desteni website to help them ‘get into politics and government
, yet they denounce charity as evil. They are opposed to capitalism but run a Multi-Level-Marketing scheme. They call EMS radical freedom but say freedom of expression leads to abuse. EMS is envisaged as coming into being after the Basic Income Grant (BIG) campaign has been proven successful world-wide, yet Desteni are not involved in the BIG campaign. They say they want to get into government by democratic means because they don't trust humanity.


Blogs and videos using the EMS slogan reiterate the well-known idea that inequality, crime, poverty and starvation are often related to the divide between rich and poor. They depict an imaginary society where equality is re-defined by Desteni. The global administration of the EMS is said to be able to provide a life-long guaranteed income for each citizen. It is supposed to micro-chip and monitor humans against abuse, negate all forms of trade and the need for individuals to have to work for more than four years.  


It is said
EMS will be the result of at least 50% of citizens voting for ‘Equal Life Party in global democratic elections that will miraculously take place after the collapse of capitalism. How supporters of EMS, called the Destonians know this is not explained, but it is in keeping with a view they have of themselves as possessing all-knowing power and knowledge, as displayed on their Equalitee t-shirts where they name themselves after super-hero comic book characters, the Guardians of the Universe.

To the Destonians, the rest of the population are all poor unfortunate brainwashed victims of consumer capitalism and need to be told what is ‘best for all’. They depict non-Destonians as afraid of equality and ‘protecting the current system of abuse’. The Destonians have no conception of political or social ideas beyond the EMS but want to dictate how the whole world should be policed as one all-encompassing authoritarian system. As bizarre as it seems, they describe global implementation of their EMS as not only the inevitable future of the world, but run by the people for the people in strict accordance with information published by the Desteni group of South Africa.


No independent source has ever cited
EMS as a worthwhile political idea. The reputation it has is that it is a scam. Almost everyone who's heard of it can see it's a scam, except for some reason the Destonians. But that's the way of cults. Desteni is widely regarded as a potentially destructive cult with anti-democratic policies, a ridiculous, nonsensical philosophy and a very amateur mode of presentation.

Their Faceworldfaceoff campaign, said to ‘actually have an Effect in the World that will have an Economic Effect on the Corpus of the Economic Structure of the World
and with the purpose of convincing at least 100 million people to shave their heads ‘for equality’ has fizzled out. And despite having released several 1000s of videos and reams of written material since 2007, Desteni still has no more than around 100 active participants world-wide. 

The group is described as exploring principles of equality and oneness but is blatantly sectarian. EMS is against free choice, privacy, freedom of speech and information, and opposed to trade and commerce. EMS would be a one-party rule, which would mean no democracy. It is as though the Destonians are nationalists defending the purity of the virtual totalitarian nation-state of Destonia. 

They say critics of
EMS have not ‘done the research’, even when it is clear they have researched EMS and Desteni, and even if they state they do not support capitalism. The Destonians claim if someone disagrees with EMS then it is because EMS is a ‘threat to the current system’. There is no evidence of EMS having threatened anyone's financial or personal security, or any corporate consumer interests whatsoever. 


Despite the fact that equality as a principle is meant to be applied without pre-conditions as a basic democratic human right, the Destonians say the only way anyone can prove themselves worthy of equality is by utilising ‘the tools’ of Desteni-branded media. Yet the principle of equality is an established part of developing ongoing social, legal and political situations and everyone is supposed to be worthy of it regardless. That is the whole idea of equality. 


But the Destonians regard all human beings as evil and possessed by ‘mind demons’.
In discussing what would be the outcome if you do not support EMS, they suggest that to avoid having to go through the hassle of an intervention by psychology professionals to have you rehabilitated for not co-operating with EMS in the future, then for your own sake you should investigate EMS now. When the Destonians recommend people ‘investigate EMS’ what they mean is: read the material, watch the videos and join Desteni.

The actual premise for EMS in the first place is Bernard Poolman's stories about how he encountered demons, famous dead people and other entities in dimensions of ‘mind consciousness systems’ designed by a race of beings called the Annunaki that also happened to have designed human beings. With the help of Poolman's chosen Portal, heaven was purified, so it is now time to bring the purified heaven to earth with EMS and make everyone a millionaire.

The stated aim of all Desteni-oriented activities is to dedicate one's life to deleting ‘the mind’ through ‘self-forgiveness’. That is what they say will bring about world equality and the ‘heaven on earth’ of EMS. The implementation of the political agenda of the Desteni group ‘as it currently exist’ involves selling holidays and the online promotion and sale of products inspired by Bernard Poolman’s demented fantasies.