Just as Desteni dictator and Adolf Hitler fan, Bernard Poolman must be aware of the story of Hitler and the Spear of Destiny, he must also be familiar with Adolf’s concept of the Big Lie.
Desteni is founded on one fundamental Big Lie.
When the group first appeared on the web in 2007, it was mainly represented through the videos of Sunette Spies. She was known by a fake name: ‘Winged’. Poolman’s fake name at the time was ‘Eagle’. An eagle with wings outspread is a symbol of Germany, as it was in the time of the Nazis.
Sunette Spies ‘channelled’, or in Destenispeak, ‘portalled’ animals, demons, insects, qualities or ideas, mythological gods, fictional characters, inanimate objects, dead children, cult leaders, rock stars, philosophers, politicians, mystics, movie stars, psychics, occultists and Adolf Hitler.
This poor demonstration of skill in the performing arts was presented as if it were an ‘interdimensional’ revelation. Every piece of media to have emerged from the Desteni farm since then has been a development and extension of Poolman’s manipulation and exploitation of Sunette Spies, who is young enough to be his daughter.
Poolman cynically contrived the ‘interdimensional portal’ as a publicity stunt, an outlandish and bizarre fake ‘truth’ in the hope that no-one would suspect that he or Spies would dared to have lied about it, and that as many people as possible would be stupid or naïve enough to believe it. Poolman makes it clear that he has no regard for the intelligence of people in general, certainly not for anyone who does not subscribe to his fantastical nonsense.
As it’s turned out, some people do believe it. Incredibly, there are others who don’t believe that the ‘portal’ is real but that her message of so-called ‘self-honesty’ is true in any case.
The ‘interdimensional portal’ is the Desteni Big Lie, concocted as it was to establish and promote Desteni, which is a cheap scam to advance Bernard Poolman’s Hitlerite ambitions to be a notorious cult leader and make as much money as he can into the bargain.
Destonians denigrate non-Destonians, branding them as useless robots that don't deserve to live. Suspicion and hatred of everyone outside of Desteni is actively cultivated by Poolman in boring diatribes against all human beings’ thoughts and actions. It is as though anyone not belonging to the Desteni nation is in terms of Nazism the equivalent of a Jew.
Desteni has nothing to do with equal rights, equal opportunities or any authentic concept of equality at all, and nothing to do with liberty, justice or freedom. ‘Equality’ in Desteni is simply, inequality; outright exploitation and abuse of the individual and the group for the benefit of an elite.
There is the suppression of all criticism and a corrosive devaluing of autonomy. The first rule is: ‘no opinions’ except Bernard's. Outside of Desteni any other values are regarded as worthless.
In the ‘Equal Life Party’ system, religion and state are interdependent. 'Religion' meaning Desteni and the state being the Equal Life Party.
Much of all this would only be obvious to those who would take the time to look into it. In Desteni certain key ideas may not be apparent at a surface glance. They are not often openly talked about or admitted to by the Desteni acolytes. Instead they shift the focus towards building up the false image of Desteni as an activist movement for positive social change.
But Bernard Poolman’s ‘Desteni’ is a pack of occult, fascist lies.
“… in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”
TZM is thoroughly disreputable. It's a pseudo-radical group promoting conspiracy theories and the vision of a sci-fi technocratic utopia, seemingly more as a form of entertainment than for any real social or political ends. It also has definite cult-like tendencies which have been noted, blogged and v-logged about by numerous commentators.
Recently, Desteni sect leader, Bernard Poolman, has made the pointless suggestion that since The Break Up of the Zeitgeist Movement the people involved should now join Desteni.
However, attempts by Desteni members to spam TZM forums with ‘equal money system’ gobbledegook and convert followers of TZM failed. TZM followers soon caught on that Destibots belong to a pernicious mind control sect with totalitarian ambitions and should be avoided at all costs.
Apparently in a desperate ploy to give the non-existent 'equal money system' some credibility, members of Desteni have been trying to critique TZM. They have a whole blog dedicated to it with the peculiar title, Zeitgeist and Venus are Not Greek Godswhere TZM's 'resource based economy' is contrasted with 'equal money system' as a way of proving the latter to be the superior choice for any right-thinking person living in cloud cuckoo land.
At the Equal Life Magazine, again they say that Desteni is more 'practical' than TZM.
It is always amusing to see the phrase, 'investigate the equal money system' as churned out by the deluded Destibots, because if anyone tries, they will find there's nothing there to investigate. The equalmoney.org website is just a propaganda tool to recruit people into the Desteni cult in the beLIEf that Desteni will eventually be in a position to give out free money to everyone and make them millionaires (See: Millionaires!! Equal Money will make ALL People EQUAL Millionaires !!).
Intellectual giant and PR Supremo of the Desteni 'post-metaphysic action-based group' (as he calls it), Darryl W. Thomas, suggests, apparently in all seriousness, in Zeitgeist: To Straighten a Crooked Stick…that now that head honcho of TZM, Peter Joseph has left the movement, he should join Desteni.
It seems that this is all the Destibots are capable of communicating: 'join Desteni'. Everything they say always comes back to that same point.
One critic of TZM, Muertos, has accurately identified Desteni as A Conspiracy Cult.
Desteni material is directly aimed at an audience that already subscribes to or has a keen interest in conspiracy theories to do with the Illuminati, the New World Order, aliens, reptilians etc. It contains hundreds of references to such theories and attempts to explain them by means of dull repetition of the Desteni catch phrases, with the resulting message as usual being 'join Desteni'.
While TZM and Desteni are both situated on the lunatic fringes, due to the far more extreme and blatantly absurd nature of the Desteni material, the Desteni movement has only a very limited niche market appeal, whereas TZM has, or rather had, a wider appeal.
In Deconstructing MUERTOS Every Day Projectfanatical Desteni recruiter, Darryl W. Thomas begins to attempt to ‘deconstruct’ Muertos’ single blog post/video, Desteni: A Conspiracy Cult in an elaborate project involving a paragraph-by-paragraph analysis and apparently even a forthcoming series of videos. All seemingly dedicated to just that one blog post by Muertos.
So far, Darryl Thomas manages to write nothing but a load of waffle. He states that Desteni does not use conspiracy theories to recruit members and that Muertos’ analysis of Desteni uses a method akin to that of a stereotypical conspiracy theorist. Both these points are false.
Darryl Thomas is wasting his time. Not just because the Desteni material is a pile of garbage and cannot by any reasonable standard be considered worth defending, but because more anti-Desteni commentary is appearing every week which examines why and how Desteni is garbage, and Darryl Thomas will be unable to keep up with it, especially as all his arguments ever amount to are ‘read the damn material’, ‘join Desteni’. We've read it. It's garbage. We're not joining.
To say that Desteni is purely a ‘conspiracy cult’ and no more would be incorrect, but it is an accurate description. Muertos’ has given an account of what he has found in relation to Desteni. There is nothing conspiratorial about it, and he has not identified any conspiracy going on. He has simply stated that Desteni is a destructive and manipulative cult which to a large extent relies on beliefs in conspiracy theories amongst a general audience to draw people in. That is just a statement of fact.
As Muertos shows, Desteni material is aimed at a particular audience impressed with conspiracy theories by providing a plethora of ‘channelled’material about reptilians, UFOs, the Illuminati, alien races etc. A great many, if not most members of Desteni have commented on their own previous beliefs in conspiracy theories prior to joining Desteni.Bernard Poolman has described how he failed to get the most famous conspiracy creator in the world, David Icke to endorse the Desteni material.
Just because Mr Thomas is one of the few people in Desteni capable of constructing a coherent sentence doesn't mean he should be taken seriously. The vacuous hogwash he spouts in support of Desteni exists for the purpose of elevating his status within the cult and misleading the younger members. It is a vain and futile effort to give Poolman and Spies’ absurd pronouncements the appearance of intellectual credibility. Anything to get away from admitting that Desteni is a dangerous cult that sucks in naive people on the basis of the popularity on the Internet of conspiracy theories and occultic New Age spiritual philosophy.
Darryl W. Thomas taking a stroll on the Desteni Cult Farm with Bernard Poolman giving the finger